Jacked the piece below from: okdr
was bekah allegedly bullied? all i can remember reading bout was that they asked her to leave in hopes of a japanese member. annoyed me so much.
Read more at Omona They Didnt:
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I had to reply to this, because it’s tiring to see how people take as news the stuff some fans and non fans make up quickly whenever anything happens with AS.
In this case, I bothered to answer because of the obvius:
- Bekah left right after E-Young joined.
If people still want to connect those facts, right. It’s not my interpretation of what happened (which I’ll detail after), but I acknowledge that theories can be made from those 2 facts connected.
- Kaeun joined this year, SHE IS NOT JAPANESE, nor an AVEX trainee and she ended up faking it as Kahi’s replacement, but we all know she was added before Kahi decided on finally graduating this year.
- We also know that Kaeun wasn’t supposed to join right now, but that it was probably Ara (good Japanese, good vocals), YoonJo (visuals, good vocals) or Hyelim’s turn (Lime: good vocals, good rap skills), or even poor Kyungmin, or as she claimed to be supposed to: Nicole.
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All this bullying rumors are so bad, by only pointing them without saying names, people are making their own assumptions, I cannot picture Miss Abullying Suzy either, but, hey, at least people are putting together facts (given by this article)
Also, the part that could apply to AS, because of the last member, if it’s notE-Young, then I don’t see Kaeun being the center of bullying. Not that I believe in it, but they say the senior members would force her with the worst outfits or the worst hair styles… and I haven’t seen that happen to Kaeun o.O plus most of the Flashback performances have got the same dresses (and Shampootoo).
Anyway, rumors are as bad as when we jump into conclusions so quickly and blame AVEX, Pledis, whatever, and we don’t even have the eyes to see the facts we are trying to connect are hard (or impossible) to connect.
I remember people accusing Kaeun of being AVEX’ trainee forced to replaceBekah, when Bekah had been out a year already, and Kaeun was there waiting on line and she had Ara, Yoonjo, Hyelim, Nicole, Kyungmin and who knows who else more before she could dream of joining… but then HVhappened, and Nicole’s issue happened, and she was picked because, indeed, her Japanese will be a lot of help whenever they come back to Japan.
Let me just point out that right now, the ones ‘coming back’ there are only Orange Caramel, so Kaeun’s Japanese power relies only on her blogs (to the private Japanese PG, and fansites who leak those) and any small tv/radio appearence they might have, without any new single to promote.
Also, I want to point out the drumline fact. I knew it was impossible for regular Pre-School members to learn such a drum routine in a very short time: It took AS members 9 months! They had to push back that single choice just because of the drumline concept, so: How could possibly an AVEX trainee who wasn’t supposed to join learn it that fast? (E-Young appart)
According to Nicole’s wonderful reactions, and the process of HV’s training and picking up members, the whole thing was faster than we think. They were testing and testing girls, even 1 of the final members quit several weeks before their debut, and, it seems, the Ara/Yoonjo (they always leave Hyelim out, and I start to suspect they had that decision clearer and sooner) switch and the consequent tantrum Nicole had, because she ended up not being picked for none: No HV, no AS. And they were placing Kaeun in front of her, just because her Japanese was more helpful for their Japanese promotions.
I don’t doubt Kaeun’s talent, but I just don’t like to demote the other Pre-School’s talent who could’ve been perfectly picked for this year’s enrollment, at the end what made the difference for Kaeun was the thing she seemed to share with Ara. It is said that Ara’s fluent in Japanese.
I just cannot understand how people make equations without realizing the timeline is a factor they’re missing. Plus, there are several parts that people tend to forget:
.-Bekah’s retirement during HAPPY PLEDIS 2011/Namie Amuro’s collabo.
.-Pledis CEO statement before Namie’s collabo was made that they had called Bekah to ‘come back’ to work, then the collabo popped out and she wasn’t there, and that was because she hadn’t come back yet o.O It was the moment when some of us were wondering what was exactly going on.
.-Virgin/Shampoo come back was already enrolling E-Young
If they wanted to kick her out: Why ask her to come back? Why even bother?
.-AVEX introduced the group first with an image of the girls at their Japanese website Without E-Young, but with Bekah

By the time we were wondering whether E-Young would actually debut with them, since the come back for Shampoo had still to happen.
.-When Virgin had been released, then it was replaced by an image with E-Young and their profiles featured them all.
AVEX quickly appologized at the same time their pasted the news on Bekah’s graduation. Japanese fans weren’t liking it like we did, so I don’t see the connection of AVEX not wanting the American-Korean member in a group where you can add as many members as you feel you have to, since its own concept allows you to do it.
.-Pre-School Girls being introduced, where and when.
.-Hyelim listed as a Pre-School Girl (I cannot really understand why they always mention Ara and Yoonjo and not her, we had to notice ourselves that Hyelim was Lime o.O)
.-Pre-School Girls existence (yeah, kind of blame Pledis for not properly exposing them)
.-Other trainees out of Pre-School existence.
.-AVEX has their own academy, but AVEX forms and eventually ruins their own groups, Prizzmy was their latest (debuted).
.-Son Dambi’s been busy with a drama.
Kahi kind of helped form AS, so it was to expect she would decide when and how to graduate, and lately it seemed like she wanted to focus on herself: drama roles, college, she never got her solo debut project where she wanted to.
Also, I’ve recently been understanding more why, out of all the formulas, Pledis’ might chose an enrollments/graduations group for their very first. Not only their low budget, the ‘only one act’ company thing, but also that if Kahi was supposed to be the core of the group, Do you honestly believe at her age she wanted to be part of an idol group for long? Kahi’s always searched for her own debut, out of all the projects she could have chosen for AS, she got a solo, not a sub-unit or a collabo unit (Son Dambi, only at that time), but a solo unit to stand alone against anything else. Surely AS was created with that purpose too: so Kahi could benefit from the goods of being in an idol group and grow as a singer and MC, so she could become second ‘Son Dambi’ of the house one day. In AS she was placed as the leader, the center, the lead vocals (she ended up having more lines than anyone else), and she also contributed so much into their concepts. Maybe because, as hinted by Han Sung Soo, Kahi and Dambi were always meant to be the core of Pledis, inside and outside.
We might get to a point when it’s announced that Kahi’s actually changing agencies, or just leaving the idol market to focus on only acting, getting married, whatever. That could happen, hey, we haven’t got any details on what’s her solo debut supposed to be, so expect whatever. But, until then, we only have facts, and the way to connect them it’s at our choice, but if we try to make our own theories, at least, look at the timeline. [okdr]




COME ON PEOPLE!!! AFTER SCHOOL DON´T HAVE BULLYING IN THE GROUP!!!
I am a playgirl since 2009, And I am 100% sure that the girls are sooo close.
This all is because allkpop posted a article where it said that 2 more girl groups are suspects of bullying, but you really need to read it carefully, the article said:
1)This 2 groups are calssified as, group ¨B¨ n group ¨C
2)And people think that the girl that suffered of bullying is Uee, but the article (group ¨B¨) said that the girl that suffered of bullying, debuted with the group, and Uee didn´t debut with AS, she, Nana, Raina, Lizzy, Eyoung n Kaeun were admitted after.. all they ddin´t debut with AS. So After School is not the group ¨B¨.
3) The group ¨C¨, said that this group that has bullying between members has weir and extravagant hair styles and clothes, and that their clothers in the stage are differents in all the members, remeber that all members of After School has the same clothes in their comebacks and don´t wear weir hairstyles n clothes. So After School is NOT the group C.
PLUS: After School said that they are like a family.
* dont belive all that the other people say, because they are not fans of AS…
Not only that but Kahi and JungAh would never allow that to happen
TRUE!!!
yeah!!! beside even kahi, bekah, and sooyoung still has strong bound with others member (except new member who enrolled after they graduated)
you can see that kahi also tweet “that’s not our problem”! (I think she’s really upset how people related it to AS)
AGRE WITH YOU !
I find it funny that AS is ALWAYS mentioned & get pulled into every bad girl group-related scandals/controversies but yet nobody credits AS when it comes to the better topics such as talented top girl groups…
Anyways there are alot more popular girl groups out there, but somehow I only find AS girls admirable. They are very classy and matured to me. Despite the group have an age gap between every member – some older members and some younger ones – I still see them interact as sisters, respect and loving each other. IMO they do not need to fake it and act all super loving and mushy. Recently I see E-Young & Kaeun getting closer to the older members in recordings, backstage, & shows – I think all it takes is patience and we all need to give the new and old members time to adjust and adapt to the line up changes.
I honestly do not think there’s any bullying at all with AS, seriously where are you people getting these ideas from?? Unless there’s actual evidences suggesting otherwise, in the meantime everyone should stop assuming and speculating bad stuff about the girls.
it’s TRUE they are like a family, you can see kahi and bekah tweet jung-ah and lizzy happy birthday, i’m so proud to be fans of After School & Hello Venus (only Pledis family)
i don’t understand people said kaeun join AS becoz only her fluent to japanese..she’s is great dancer..and tall that the other reason she suitable for AS..for ara and yoonjo..pledis said that ara is too good to be in AS…and ara and yoonjo personality more to cute and not sexy powerfull as AS..hellovenus is created bcos of pre school girl..pledis wanna make ara as main vocalist.. and debut yhe trainer..as kyumin, maybe she will be a part of AS soon…
I agree. Kaeun impressed me by her confidence. I really like Eyoung and I think she is very talented but I have to say Kaeun’s variety skill is better than Eyoung’s. She has just joined AS and I think she need time to show her talents. Just waiting.
I cant imagine what would happen if Ara and Yoonjo joined AS.I mean they’re so cute, so sweet. They suit HV more than AS.
I agree. I believe that all pledis trainee are multi-talented people. And Pledis also said that among all the trainees, Kaeun has the most strong and impressive vocal.
The fact that Bekah is returning to the music only a year after she left, makes me suspect that it was never her choice to leave AS. We can assume that her contract obliged her not to do anything connected with music for a year, so after a year, ‘being a designer’ she got enough of that dream(!?) and she is coming to the music again o_O. Sorry, but just doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t matter so much anyway, I’m sure there was no bullying or anything.
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O_o I don’t know that bekah return to music O_o
‘In mid 2012, Bekah appeared on Lee Hyori’s “Golden 12″ where she revealed that she had been practicing and writing her own material. Bekah then announced on her Twitter page on June 25, 2012 that “big things are going to happen” which speculated rumours of a possible solo album being released soon.’
Sorry, I have to comment on this because I guess a lot of people think this way because maybe they haven’t personally come across people who are say, both a graphic designer and a DJ (like myself and like many people I personally know). For artists, they don’t simply dabble in one discipline, they do many because it’s expressive in different forms. I know many who are DJs, musicians AND photographers. I have a friend who’s a celebrity blogger AND is a singer/songwriter. is a My home (which I bought) is outfitted with artwork, photos with a makeshift studio for sound and video production, all of which are a result of both myself and my boyfriends projects.
So the ‘dream’ of becoming a designer, much like wanting to produce music doesn’t stop simply because another starts, they go together always. Sometimes one gets put on the backburner when something requires a certain amount of time for concentration – like school.
There’s a lot of things that bother me to be honest.
I really think Plendis asked her to leave and she didn’t want to go. That’s why some of her tweets at the time and the fact she wasn’t in Namie’s video annoyed me and made me suspicious. I don’t believe she was bullied but I still do not like whatever reason Avex or Plendis had for taking her out of the group.
One thing is for certain, I lost my interest in the group once she left. I really didn’t like the After School graduation concept when it was announced. It only works for Morning Musume and that’s it.
if you think pledis asked bekah to leave so why they bring her in to the group for the first place. kahi its self who wants bekah in AS, she her self asked her to join in AS and came to Hawai by her self for just asked her. so if pledis and avex want her to leave AS for Japan promo, so kahi make sure that she won’t sign the contract. beside avex is already said that they’re already apologized, if they didn’t like her, so why bother put bekah face just erased it like JYP do to nickhun. all the member had told at many show that bekah had a hard time adapted in Korsel, all her family was in Hawai, and she can’t see them more than 3 years. if you are like bekah, did you happy with that. if you like all members work as hard as cow for the rest of her life like SME do with their artist and just waist her youth time just do singing, the truth is she’s can be a great design artist???
kahi and Jungah really love her, its ridiculous to just let her go after every things they figthing for her. even after her graduation was announce, she still perform with them
even she cancel her flight to perform once again with AS.
if pledis has anythings to do with it, its imposible.
the head honco of AS is Kahi not Han sung su. if anyone mess with AS
they will face Kahi first. even Yoo Sooyoung apologized for hurt AS with her withdrawal.
so I think leader role in AS was very important, not just label but
how to maintain AS and lead the members,manage with the company, write a song,
pick a song, and decided all the concept for next comeback. so we can see that jung ah little unconfident for that, not just simply replace Kahi after her graduation.
everyone know the consecuences for being Playgirlzs, so i sugest you think again for being
playgirlz or just bias in one member only ^^
Well Honey, ‘if you think pledis asked Bekah to leave so why they bring her in to the group for the first place.’, this is a bit silly question to ask, they are not fortune-tellers to know what problems may arise later, in the beginning all the members were selected by luck. Surely Kahi didn’t kicked her out, but it didn’t depended on her whether she stays or not. But I agree with the other thing, they are a group and they should be loved as such, they all deserve respect, I don’t respect those ”fans” who say, ”’my bias is gone, so i won’t fallow that group anymore” so piss of then!
If AS no longer interests you, why are you still following news on them?
honey: Okay, but maybe it was AVEX then. Why bring in other examples of different companies artists then?
Sushie: This post was on Idolminded. I thought I’d just comment with my opinion, that’s all.
Surely, my opinion is okay and not harsh. This is just what I think as I was a fan from 2009-2011. Maybe I don’t know much about the company or what goes on behind the scenes with Plendis artists, but I just want to comment my opinion.
Kaeun is good enough for me to join AS